The Euthyphro Dilemma

Jake Farr-Wharton 8 comments
The Euthyphro Dilemma

I take you to a recent accident in Ukraine. A bus waited for the train to approach and then started to cross the railway. All signals were working and the weather was fine. The result was 43 dead including a 7 year old boy.

This video is disturbing as you can see dead bodies lying along the railway line. A nearby Christian Church, which you can actually see if you contnue to watch the video, attepted to put this tragic accident into the context of God’s greater plan.

This disturbed me greatly, but they’re not the first ones to do it. Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson claimed that 9/11 occurred because God was anrgy due to America’s tollerance of homosexuality and abortions.

But why would a benevolent god do such a thing? Why would it commit such a travesty?

 

The answer is clear; God is a sadomasochist with a serious blood fetish.

Unfortunately for us, however, as time goes on, his thirst for blood and guts has become more and more intrusive. Back in the old days, God would just get his chosen people to lob off their foreskin, and he'd smite the occasional rogue nation who was controlling land he'd ordained for his chosen, foreskin-less people.

Nowadays though, god's thirst for gore, blood, giblets and violation of children by priests/pastors has grown to biblical proportions... Old Testament biblical proportions!

We must excise the profuse and malignant sludge that is god. We must treat the very notion of god with contempt. This imaginary, yet tangibly incorporeal obsession which courses through the veins of the metaphorical heart of billions of morons across the pale blue dot which we call earth.

It forces one to see the natural as supernatural and the supernatural as natural. This, by a wicked extrapolation, means that the natural is not natural at all, but merely a constructed tangibility within an incorporeal sludge of god's imagination.

Thus we sit, poised on the edge of our chairs, as is a familiar human trait, awaiting a destiny, damnation and doom which will likely never eventuate, merely tantalise and leave us in a state of perpetual euphoric trepidation and dread.

How do we help people out of this perpetual delirium, this all consuming delusion?

Education.

Belief in a god or gods does not make you ‘stupid’, nor does disbelief in a god or gods make you ‘smarter’. After all, we’re all atheists with respect to the Norse, Roman, Greek, Egyptian, Mesopotamian and Assyrian gods of antiquity. We’re both atheists with respect to the Hindu Pantheon, Indigenous Australian creation spirits, and Galactic Emperor Xenu.

While I don’t personally believe that there is enough evidence to support the existence of any gods that humans have believed in, plenty of people do. While I revel in the evidence provided by scientific pursuit and discovery, others choose to believe in direct spite of this best evidence.

Joe Marco

Joe Marco

Thursday 14th October 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Apathetic deism...that's the only middle ground to be found. you have a god..but it doesn't care. Update at 6!

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Henk V

Henk V

Thursday 14th October 2010 | 08:18 PM
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god for lollies id a fine concept.. and as Jake will confirm, god for pussy may be cynical but when you are a kid, lollies lose their appeal

god for traffic signals? another concept methinx. I doubt if very many had time to confess/recant.

You'll find god isnt responsible at all, otherwise it would have been a fully laden donkey cart running into a high speed bullock.

Either that, or smiting the few million in the near east just hasnt got its wind power anymore. Think 'll go and tap a rock for some water.

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Jake Farr-Wharton

Jake Farr-Wharton

Friday 15th October 2010 | 06:46 AM
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...in response to this comment by Henk V. Consider making stone soup.

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Tyler V

Monday 18th October 2010 | 10:58 AM

That's actually not the E.D. ... nor is it even a coherent objection of theodicy. You may be impressed by scientific evidence but dont seem too worried about logical validity.

Not to mention, yet again, you continually deny objective morals and yet you seem genuinely morally indignant with God. So has should God be guilty of what you say he is (though its quite a shallow understanding of the problem and has been thoroughly answered by philosophers - you'll notice that no philosophers repeat arguments like the E.D. because it has long been shown to be an invalid objection), but IF God is guilty of what you say he is, then do you think that God has violated a real moral code to which you have the right to be indignant about? You have argued that we cannot judge other moral systems or other places/times, and yet you seem perfectly content to make objective moral statements about the moral obligations of a transcendent being. And you dont see the inconsistency there?

Friendo

Friendo

Monday 18th October 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Uh oh!!

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Ben

Tuesday 26th October 2010 | 12:49 PM

Don't feed the trolls.

Henk V

Henk V

Tuesday 26th October 2010 | 02:27 PM
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...in response to this comment by Tyler V. You could have actually moved off topic again... what moral where you thinking of?

Glad you are giving the wifes fingers a rest. Have you had her white walling or gardening for the past few months?

Not that you'd know how..

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Henk V

Henk V

Tuesday 26th October 2010 | 02:31 PM
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certainly know who puts the condoms on in that house hold!

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