1 in 5 US citizens think the Sun revolves around the Earth
Mikey 29 comments
Morons? How else can you explain that 1 in 5 American adults think the Sun revolves around the Earth? Are these the same people who think the Earth is only 6000 years old? They may be.
US citizens please don't take offence. If you are reading this then you probably aren't one of those 1 in 5, because I find it difficult to believe that people who think the Sun revolves around the Earth would have the rudimentary skills to navigate the Internet and find this article.
For the record, the idea that the Earth revolves around the Sun was discarded in the 17th century. This rant article raises the point: If you don't know what a cell is, how can you understand what Stem Cell Research is and be eligible to vote on it?
Let the discussion begin.
Innes
Sunday 8th July 2007 | 02:00 PMHow can the sun revolve around the earth when we all know the earth is flat?
Your favorite religious nutter
Sunday 8th July 2007 | 03:57 PM1 in 5 US citizens think the Sun revolves around the Earth
WOW This must be true, its on Rustylime.
from another anti Christian website surprise surprise.
You know oddly enough the bible states the Earth is round.
You can insult me bully me even, but you cant mount even a half decent argument without getting into name calling.
Jay
Sunday 8th July 2007 | 04:27 PM@ Your favorite religious nutter
This isn't an anti-Christian web site. There are at least 10 contributors on this site only 1 of which has no religious affiliation (michael).
This site has more than 200 articles, 8 of which are on the topic of religion.
As for the claim 1 in 5 believe the sun rotates the earth, thats based on Dr Jon D. Miller's research.
"While scientific literacy has doubled over the past two decades, only 20 to 25 percent of Americans are "scientifically savvy and alert," he said in an interview. Most of the rest "don't have a clue."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/science/30profile.html?ex=1184040000&en=1bf9b57004fdad1f&ei=5070">His words.
Jake Farr-Wharton
Sunday 8th July 2007 | 06:20 PMAs the saying goes, ignorance is bliss...
Your favorite religious nutter
Friday 13th July 2007 | 02:18 PM(This isn't an anti-Christian web site.) quote Jay
Oh Jay, but it is, read some of the other stories on that site!
Ohh you thought I meant this site, silly you, easy mistake.
Just because somebody calls themselves a Christian, a Christian they may not be. In fact I would suggest 1 in 5 Christians are not Christians, only call themselves that, for whatever reasons.
Not that I am a judge, but in the Bible it says, you will know Christians by there actions.
So if I kill steal lie cheat and do lots of other sinful things, and then call myself a Christian, would you still consider me a Christian.
What if I joined the skull and bones club started a war had many men go off and die for me, and became obscenely wealthy from my deeds, would you consider me a Christian?
I Gilly have decided to become an atheist, yes I have seen the error of my Ignorance and Naivety. No more Christianity for ME. Atheism it is, but, I am going to keep Christ as my Saviour tho (just overlook that bit) . ONWARD ATHEIST SOLDIERS
If I call myself an Atheist does that make me an Atheist?
Stupid isnt it?
Seriously Christ said "you are with me or against me, if you are luke warm I will spit you out of my mouth".
I still dont believe that 1 in 5 Americans over the age of 10 years believe what is suggested. I agree with Rod even go as far as to suggest you are stupid and gullible to run this story.
(As for it being the religious south who think it, maybe a Christian can fill us in - does the Christian bible make this claim?) QuoteRod
You are such an arrogant pratt.
Rodney
Friday 13th July 2007 | 03:03 PMWhy am I arrogant for asking a question? I'm not saying I know the answer - I'm asking someone who does to fill us in. Why is that arrogant?
Jake Farr-Wharton
Friday 13th July 2007 | 06:26 PMGilly, you're as entitled to you opinion as anyone else. When it comes to religious beliefs, no side, be it theist or atheist [or the agnostic in-betweens] have any more proof than the other, we choose our belief system based on what we are comfortable with or deem logical.
As for your question Rodney, the more current versions Bible contains nothing on the topic of the sun and earth revolution. I say the current version because the Vatican cut and change stances and views on how the christians should view the world around them only when there is irrefutable evidence to the contrary. We know from more ancient and medieval/renaissance versions of the text that much has changed or 'evolved' if you will over the past several hundred years.
I would say that it is more than likely that the vatican had the same view up until everyone else changed it, then they would have followed suit.
gilly
Saturday 14th July 2007 | 07:48 PMAs for your question Rodney, the more current versions Bible contains nothing on the topic of the sun and earth revolution. I say the current version because the Vatican cut and change stances and views on how the christians should view the world around them only when there is irrefutable evidence to the contrary. We know from more ancient and medieval/renaissance versions of the text that much has changed or 'evolved' if you will over the past several hundred years.
I would say that it is more than likely that the vatican had the same view up until everyone else changed it, then they would have followed suit. Quote JFW
I know this is going to be difficult to absorb, but the Catholic church IS NOT representative of all Christianity. They use to kill people who read the bible in the inquisition, yes the Catholics did, why?.
The Catholics where not the only "Christians" running around. Europe is not the center of the Galaxie or Earth for that matter
Your statement "I would say" is stupid and misleading.
I would say, that the Catholic church is the Whore of Babylon that is prophesied in the book of Revelation.
Unlike JFW ignorant comment on the Earths revolutions, the New Testament states Christ will return in a split second(twinkling of an eye) and on that day and on that night, in that split second of his return, it will be both day and night on Earth. Explain that statement if it is a flat earth according to Christians. You are IGNORANT.
Its in the Bible Luke 17 V30 t0 35
Please dont be Ignorant.
Dont imply or talk about what you dont know or understand.
Rod I think you are patronising arrogantt pratt for thinking (southern Bible belt) Christians believe that the Earth revolves around the Sun, and basing your opinion on nothing. Maybe I was a bit harsh and should have suggested stup oops naive
Rodney
Saturday 14th July 2007 | 09:59 PMGilly, I think you've misunderstood my question, perhaps it wasn't worded clearly enough. I was not stating that southern Americans think the sun revolves the earth.
I said "As for it being the religious south who think it, maybe a Christian can fill us in...". This is a question stating my doubt that anyone believes the sun orbits the Earth. I was asking if anyone could please let us know whether there was any reason to think otherwise.
I don't mind if you think I'm a pratt but at least think it for the right reasons. Read what's actually there, not what you want to see.
Gilly
Saturday 14th July 2007 | 10:24 PMSorry Rod, seems like misunderstandings are the nature of the Beast on the keyboard.
I will say it again, Christians believe the OT to be true.
We are not ignorant to science, the theory of evolution is still a theory. The Earth orbits the Sun and the Earth is round. The moon, is made of Cheese.
Dear Mikey,
I'm glad you bring up these important and tragic points. They are so important that I think you should date your article.
We are in very deep snow, even if the survey has a significant margin of error; very deep snow.
The de-evolution of American intellect and lost sense of priorities began much earlier than, as a small example, in response to a question he should have never been asked, Bill Clinton replied "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is." The political assassination was partially complete. People went kind of numb.
I do blame the Bush administration to a substantial degree for accelerating our slide toward oblivion. The architects of the Bush-Cheney Presidency have waged a wide ranging and large scale assault on science, reason and the english language in a remarkably successful effort to, in the words of Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky, "manufacture consent." While quietly beginning to dismantle the public school system under the guise of fixing it, and in the larger process of manufacturing consent, even solid 1st grade science can readily be either forgotten or worse, doubted.
Certainly there are notable exceptions and there is room for hope, but I am not too optimistic: in the near term, electricity and water will become very expensive, as will ultra-cheap Chinese products, and at least that 20% of unwitting geo-centerics and other flat-earther types will scratch their head quizzically.
-sgs, new orleans 7/17/2007
Gilly
Wednesday 25th July 2007 | 06:52 PMI might be up for an apology here. While watching the "Chasers war on repeats" the other night, Americans were asked when was 9/11, most answered it was in October sometime. Those Chasers would never make something like that up.
CJ.TheAngryGimp
Thursday 22nd November 2007 | 04:18 AMHey Gilly did you see the chaser question to Americans segment where they were asking them to name a country that begins with the letter U. I am quite sure that a larg percentage of folks were able to do it and that they were not shown as that just isn't that funny but of the many who couldn't think of a single country begging with U, all of them looked surprised when the chasers pointed out the United States of America started with, you guessed it U. And if you think Australians are immune from blatent ignorace of basic common knowlage, try wathing 'Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader'.
Captain Spelling
Thursday 22nd November 2007 | 11:44 AMFor example: "knowlage" is spelt "knowledge"
marc
Thursday 31st January 2008 | 06:51 PMdid you know that 1 in 5 foreigners ACTUALLY believe that 1 in 5 Americans believe that the Earth revolves around the sun?
"my ass may be dumb, but I ain't no dumbass" - Ordell Robbie
Michael
Friday 26th September 2008 | 08:31 AM...in response to this comment by Innes. The earth is not flat, it is curved
Rick
Wednesday 19th November 2008 | 01:12 PMThat actually wasn't 1 in 5 Americans that believe the Sun revolves around the earth, please remember that there are 20 million illegal aliens in this country....
...in response to this comment by Rick. Hey..I don't know whats up with all you other Americans, but you have it all wrong, and I have the tattoo to prove it.
On my left forearm I have a what is known here in Mexico and Escarabajo Egypto. This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Sun is really a ball of dung that is rolled up and buried every 12 hours or so, by this very beetle, thus causing darkness for half of all time on earth.
Ha, you skeptics are all saying 'bull..WAK JOB." Now I am not a betting man....BUT..I have had several conversations with my ink buddy, and he assures me that no matter where you live on the face of the earth, over any period of 365.4 days, you will receive the same amount of sunlight as any other place on the planet. Discounting clouds of course.
Once in a while, I have to wake him up a bit early though, as around dawn, that ball of dung starts to get a bit on the hot side. Let me see if I can find a photo for you. Well wrong arm, but he has to help with the dung beetle from time to time,
And Rick, what will we do when all those Martins start demanding union wages on that inter planet pipeline job they will all be working on??
God,no-no Jesus, Odin, no-no,who's that spagetti guy..oh man....I'm in some real crap now. Anybody got a strigil. I need a hot bath.
F-
Jake Farr-Wharton
Wednesday 19th November 2008 | 03:02 PM...in response to this comment by Friendo. Friendo, you're a phony, and I have the proof - Alaska experiences prolonged periods of daylight, sometimes up to a month at a time... how do you explain that you phony, with all your flippn' science and spaghetti monsters... there goes your stupid dungbeetle conspiracy out the flippn' window, you flippn phony.
I hope you're ashamed of what you've written here today and remember that god created everything, including the mine of boogies in your nostrils, so it would be a crime agains god herself if you removed them with anything less than your big toe -
Chuygarsia
Saturday 24th October 2009 | 09:08 AM...in response to this comment by Rick. That shouldn't give you a reason to feel smart, now.
Chuygarsia
Saturday 24th October 2009 | 09:08 AM...in response to this comment by Rick. That shouldn't give you a reason to feel smart, now.
Gintoki
Wednesday 17th February 2010 | 11:55 AMIt truly is a shame that even in our time of scientific breakthroughs, more people consider themselves religious. We know far more stuff than we did a couple hundred years ago, and people are converting to all sorts of religions daily. Science can tell a man almost instantly tell you that the earth is round and that the we orbit around the sun. If people don't think that, then earth would be in an everlasting day or night. Religion has doomed us all.
"Perhaps mankind's worst tragedy is hijacking of morality by religion."
Arthur C. Clark
Author of 2001 a Space oddesy
Actually
Tuesday 31st August 2010 | 04:58 AM...in response to this comment by Your favorite religious nutter. Actually, the bible says the world is flat with a dome that rises over the flat earth. So the world must be flat.
Jake Farr-Wharton
Tuesday 31st August 2010 | 10:03 AM...in response to this comment by Actually. The quran says that the earth rests on the back of a tortise. So it must be true too, after all, the paedophile mohammad, who consumated his marriage with his final wife when she was just 7, was God's last prophet.
Henk V
Tuesday 31st August 2010 | 01:00 PMreproductive strategies vary..
PS, Rick, dont try going to increase the average intelligence of the forest denizens. Aliens or no, the forest denizens took part in this..
Dan
Monday 14th February 2011 | 09:45 PM...in response to this comment by Innes. You're right on this!
The sun may revolve around the flat Earth because of its elliptical revolution
Sio, everything can be easily explain :-)
Henk V.
Tuesday 15th February 2011 | 09:25 PM...in response to this comment by Your favorite religious nutter. 3 and a 1/2 years on and the rhetoric is the same.
God must be real. Chance could not have cloned that brain cell so efficiently.
I'll ask the sea jellies next time I have one hanging around my leg. I hope it/they are not to ashamed to admit his/their brothers...
It/they? His/their? well ask any marine biologist. any colony that shares one set of eyes is a bit confusing.. Lordy they must have a point of view that they have overwhelmingly missed.
Henk V.
Tuesday 15th February 2011 | 09:28 PM...in response to this comment by Jake Farr-Wharton. Jeeps Jake, I am none of those.. When are you guys finally going to recognise us recidivist philosophical nihilists????
Rodney
Sunday 8th July 2007 | 01:52 PMI cannot believe that anyone exposed to media and education would think the Sun revolves around the Earth. I would in fact go so far as to call Shenanigans on the parent article. I think this is more likely to be an urban legend of the ilk that 1/5 Americans believe choc milk comes from brown cows.
As for it being the religious south who think it, maybe a Christian can fill us in - does the Christian bible make this claim? I know for sure the "old testament" doesn't.
The parent article does raise one good point, which infects Australian politics as well. People vote on appearance and likability rather than substance. I once read that in nearly all of the last 100 years or so, the successful American presidental candidate has been the one with the better hair.